Oblivion No Level Scaling Mod Apk
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Oblivion No Level Scaling Mod Apk

Mar 28, 2006 Level scaling is the one thing (so far) that really, really bothers me about this game. It makes absolutely no sense for everything to scale in difficulty around you like Oblivion does. Like mentioned by previous posters, why the hell would a random bandit have glass/daedric armour? From Obsessed117 #010 Make sure when you level up to get up your skills even more so you are ensured +5 bonuses every time. My character gained a +2 and a +3 in strength level 10 without any outside help.(no traps, guards, companions or out of reach places to snipe from). Oblivion Non Adult Mods. Downloads - Oblivion Non Adult Mods. Request & Find - Oblivion Non Adult Mods. Discuss non adult oriented mods for Oblivion. A little demon for you to play as, a lovers pk exclusive by me for you. By sunhawken, Saturday at 11:59 PM.

UncleLouModerator 28 Mar 2006 18:37:53 40,718 posts
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Yes, it's another Oblivion thread, but I can't say I am really sorry, the other one is too big and fast-moving if you want to talk about one specific issue.
So, is the scaling an issue, or not?
Here's an excerpt of a review that describes the matter:
A couple of hours into the game is enough to realise Oblivion's design is very much in the Elder Scrolls mentality, however in attempting to create an open-ended experience that appeals to all, Bethesda may have inadvertently ended up pleasing newcomers but at the same time frustrating those who've stuck by them through the years.
The source of the criticism and contention is the way in which the experience scales to your position within the game. It's easy to see what and why Bethesda have done this; getting killed by Mud Crabs at the start of Morrowind was never much fun and likely to put off all but the most perseverant gamer, it's also important to maintain a challenge across the board despite the open-ended structure.
So instead Oblivion bases the opponents and the weapons/armour they have equipped on your level within the game, thus killing goblins at level 1 is quite easy but will still provide a challenge as you progress through the game. The problem however is that in the process this concept virtually destroys two crucial elements of an RPG, in the shape of immersion and reward.
The problem doesn't really begin to appear until you've reached level 10, where bandits, who should be killing just to survive, are all of a sudden wearing Ebony armour and wielding other such supposedly 'rare' items. The process of wandering into an area at the start of a game and quickly realising it's far too difficult for you seems to be completely removed from the game, equally the concept of coming back to 'easy' areas once you've levelled up has been displaced; thus the key RPG area of becoming a hero seems to be sorely lacking.
This decision leads to a series of strange situations that break the sense of disbelief running through the game; it's entirely possible to become the Grand Champion of the Arena before you're level 5, whilst we've read reports of one person who completed the main game as a level 1 character, refusing to level up and enjoying the weak challenge presented to him (unfortunately we can't substantiate the claim at present, but it certainly seems plausible).
The decision continues to have an impact on such areas as the economy, with 'rare' items becoming increasingly commons you progress through the game as enemy characters scale up according to you. Without wanting to sound too clichéd it's a decision that has divided fans, it's a feature that has both strengths and weaknesses, it's one that you're either going to appreciate or hate, but ultimately it shouldn't deter too much from the enjoyment that Oblivion's world presents.
What do you lot think?
Personally, I do mind it less than I thought I would in one respect, the 'hero' feeling, because I still feel more powerful than I did when I was level 1. What worries me a little however is that the loot is equally scaled, and every bandit is running around in elite shiny armour all of a sudden.
On the one hand, it's a nearly perfect way to ensure longevity.
However, I really sometimes miss the feeling of other RPGs where you aggressively try to level just so you can finally access a certain area that has just been to bloody hard so far, and finally give that orc/troll/beast what it deserves. The feeling like in Gothic when you finally, fially feel strong enough to enter that mysterious, scary dark wood, curious what might be in there after you had to avoid it for many, many hours. In Oblivion, you can go pretty much anywhere and know you'll never get in a situation you can't master.
So, in short, I can't quite make up my mind yet.
Edited by UncleLou at 18:39:11 28-03-2006

Whizzo 28 Mar 2006 18:42:03 44,810 posts
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I've read the reports of people bumping into fully Daedric armoured bandits as you get higher in level and that just seems a bit daft.
If this was a table top RPG I'd be changing what you face rather than making the foes more powerful but still having the cannon fodder around, usually in larger numbers. The latter probably can't be done due to hardware requirements.

Derblington 28 Mar 2006 18:43:47 35,159 posts
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It doesn't really bother me, the game is good regardless, but I do think they picked a daft way of doing it.
phAge 28 Mar 2006 18:46:02 25,487 posts
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Hmm... Tough one, this. I'll propably go with saying that it is a negative thing - how much remains to be seen as I level up.
lost_soul 28 Mar 2006 18:53:09 9,372 posts
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frod wrote:
Sounds retarded.
I'd agree. Going back to an area where you were previously pwned and being able to really kick arse, after a bit of levelling, is something I enjoy in RPGs.

thegamesthething 28 Mar 2006 18:55:38 1,079 posts
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I think its a nice change to be honest.
The usual area based method (ala FF, WoW etc) is also pretty daft when you think about it. A level 30 in WoW can find wolves in Dun Morogh that can be killed instantly (if you bother aggroing them atall), but others in Felwood that whilst looking much the same can kill in one swipe of a paw. Same applies in FF.
Also the area based method tends to break the game up geographically (that forest is lvl 25, this mountain pass is lvl 10 etc). There are no such areas in Oblivion (or at least that I've seen yet), just one big world.

It does sound a particularly daft thing to do. No point levelling up if everyone levels up with you.
Ah well - not got time to play this anyway. Suppose this is as good an excuse as any not to go and buy it

BartonFink 28 Mar 2006 18:56:46 35,268 posts
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Same here I haven't gone far enoght into the game yet to make an informed decision on whether this is a good or bad thing. On the face of it though and what the guys are saying I would say for a RPG it's probably a bad thing.
One very simple question needs to be answered though:
If I enter an area early in the game and get murderised by a foe that is a few levels above me fair enough but if I come back to that same area later in the game will that foe scale with me? Or will I be able to go into the area and give